radio guy for a minute. what we're about to give you never seen anything like this i'm sorry. what's up guys i'm an old you know this isn't an april fool's joke i am indeed filling in for abby but we've got a lot to talk about today so what say we go ahead and break the set. the to. do the job or she's going to be like. ok. folks if there's one thing that constantly dominates the corporate media right now it's the rhetoric being peddled on iran and syria and the muslim world in general but why are foreign conflicts that morally and financially bankrupt this country and the world continue to be initiated despite there being no actual threat

. it's a question that's being heavily explored by peter joseph creator of the zite case film series he was recently right here on the show discussing these difficult questions and the idea that war is a symptom of a much larger disease check it out. of the seas is our refusal as a global civilization to the very fundamentally share our resources compounded by this fear generation that's perpetual which is driven by imperialism which is no mystery of anyone studied basic history but the economic system is where all of this resides and the problem isn't that the intelligent people out there aren't aware of this is that no effort is being made to actually go to this root cause and make a decision to put pressure on all the establishment of the world to begin to work together and the the real danger ultimately is that we're no longer a closed society if if say india and pakistan decided to go to nuclear war for basic ideological or resource reasons in fact that would affect everybody on the

planet so this is now a public issue across the entire world we have to grow up and become mature learn to share resources and tell the economic model is address which perpetuates scarcity which perpetuates competition which uses empirical tools such as war to expand this empire no different than a corporation expands a monopoly we have a long and dangerous road ahead of us and deed it is a global system and humanity is on a road of collective consciousness and in terms of the internet and the advance of technology it seems like the system is hinged on dogmatism and institutionalized fear in order to maintain it. in your films you point out three main factors i mean religion politics economics and i think technology is advancing to the point where these paradigms simply don't apply to the collective consciousness which we just spoke about so what is reinforcing this and how come more people can't act toward coming outside of this outdated system peter but the conditioning is so powerful i mean everything that rewards you and i are the basic majority of the population. in

which is this industrial economic system where you have to be very cutthroat extends itself synergistically to the entire approach of how nations interact of how the world interacts so if you have a complete model based on competition fear generation again the restriction of possibility through scarcity and this kind of ideological fervor that says well this is just the way it has to be and they have no idea what technologically technologically can happen to remove all poverty to actually eliminate all the problems that are generating this incentive for war since people don't know about those things which of course is what is like us moon is trying our best to get a get out there apart from other ideas they don't know how to think about it so they look at this us and them they say this is just the way it is and the entire sickness unfolds and the fear as you point out is just simply regenerated over and over again but here we're told that capitalism breeds competition and innovation and nothing else will allow that to exist yet your documentary perfectly outlined i mean these and mazing technologies that exist right now yet they're being

restricted or underdeveloped because of anomaly over industry i mean for example the maglev train i mean it's mind blowing what the potential of this is talk about this as well as other innovations that could completely transform society for the better it's unfortunate how people again don't know of these innovations from from infrastructure such as transportation to food generation to energy generation we have the capacity to create an abundance of these things of high efficiency incredible sustainability with in fact none of the scarcity attributes and labor requirements in these value are intentions of traditional economics which could make them all three in fact i mean they're very literally in a few people want to learn more about that there's like there's movement dot com but here's the problem there's two systems happening in the world right now there's a financial system a market system the business system and then there's a natural law a scientific system that existed long before we ever evolved to understand it and we are putting of a round peg in a square hole right now because the evolution of technology is enabling all these.

possibilities to literally solve mass multimedia global problems to put on a completely new path towards true progress and create social stability and increasing public health but we are being blocked and stopped by this arcane market system the free market capitalist system as they exist in its form today which needs to restrict efficiency it needs inefficiency to keep people employed and to keep this whole hideous machine going right i love that part in your documentary also where you talk about products i mean they're made to be have a shelf life of like a year and then you just keep buying the updated model and we don't share things anymore i mean and of course humanity has potential for so much good yet so many of the smartest people on earth are working for methods of destruction and warfare i mean you've said yourself a revolution a values is what's required what is needed for this shift. good question you know there is what we call

a bio social set of pressures which are you know the basic destabilization we see socially the occupy uprisings which is just one of many of storable uprisings of the underclass that is basically abused and exploited we see tremendous biological scuse me biodiversity problems and ecological problems that are emerging across the world you know climate destabilization all this stuff that has persisted that we kind of conveniently ignore but these pressures once they come down once this natural law philosophy this natural law science that we live in immutably shows us that ok i'm not going to let you do this anymore we can hope that we will adjust and adapt sadly as in my last culture the climate was called war against nature there is really a war against nature happening with all the established systems in the world refusing to acknowledge the basic foundation of our sociological propensities meaning our public health propensities how our brains interact with the environment how we generate crime how we generate violence how we generate of course war on the social level and on the personal level we're creating social rosies in the stores

and across the board because we're not respecting these natural issues so you can look at it from a standpoint of the you going to human organism and you can look at it standpoint from our larger macro institutions that literally have no respect for the environment because it's not within the business model the business model has no acknowledgment of the natural law philosophy that we have to subscribe to in order to maintain sustainability we're just course perpetuates this distortion of values of also just what true happiness and success is i mean i know firsthand living in d.c. it's all about what job you have how much power that job yields and how much money you make from it how does this toxic way of thinking about success and hit true happiness truth ability true health i'm actually manifesting. that's a great question people need to sit back everyone needs to personally stand back at some point in their life and ask them what it is that they actually want to do when there are a kid growing up before these pressures of the systems emerge pressure of the system urge to get a job and it be you know this edifice of exchange which is what we're all reduced

to and ask themselves what happiness really means is it material success clearly not statistically material success is variable you could go back hundreds of years now p.p.p. people with much better public health than we have today societies and yet they have much less of a material acquisitive reality they don't have the cellphones and twitter and all the stuff that distracts us and makes us feel impulsive with how we relate to the world around us in many different ways but yet they're happier and you go but you can go to smaller impoverished cultures today that live off the land still so much happier statistically those measures that have been done yet we are the wealthiest most materialistic society and we have the highest levels of suicide depression drug use it's goes across the board so it's a personal respect issue plus it's also a statistical issue and that's another thing that the movement tries to get out as like well if we have this whole society that claim to be the pinnacle of success in the material culture why isn't it correlating to one personal sense of satisfaction and that's a big question that can go on a huge standard on but i'll leave it at that people should definitely check out all

of your serious culture and plan it's a great let's talk about the fifth annual of the day and the solutions that were discussed how can we move forward in implementing this new social order without getting trapped in the barriers of language and these divisions these box paradigms of socialism marxism it really prevents people from opening their mind to it and enveloping aspects of this and our society that we need to address. the polarization propaganda goes back to our history books everyone you know if you're not into a competitive society you must be in to communicate a communist society scuse me that's it's unfortunate that still persist because it blocks people's frame of reference both the people that state those things and the people that hear it don't know any better. that's that's a hard argument the best thing to do is to go after the train of thought and that's what the movement tries to do and what our vendor on z. day was all about the main event los angeles which was sold out we had a tremendously good response and we had about eleven speakers across six hours just go step by step through what this with this transition of thought in this

transition of society could be the transition of thought comes to realizing that we're just one big family on this on this planet we're one species we come from basic biological ancestors one in fact mitochondrial eve so we're all literally one big family and we have to realize our economy is one system on the earth therefore these structural attributes that we've concocted the market economy these divisions that sovereignty we have to begin to question these and question their validity for long term social sustainability and answer a final question about actual transition that's a difficult subject how to actually move into a completely new approach to this but there's one thing i'll say it's a phrase it's called starving the beast and that's a lack of discipline in the current model right there are many different ways that people can engage especially now with the sort of access society that's emerged very slowly you see this in europe with the sharing of bicycles and things like this give other examples in the corporate commercial realm such as the zip car in america stuff like that primitive notions of this but localization of energy in your homes the community asked attributes sharing of resources creating shared

networks time banks mutual credit systems like they have in switzerland very advanced systems that do one thing they help people that are suffering that can't get a job which is growing and robust across the world and sometimes he takes away the energy and drive the g.d.p. growth so you imagine for example if we had resolution to health care problems in america which is about fifteen percent of g.d.p. as a side note by the way and you actually resolved health problems instead of fueling them like they did unfortunately there i was so sorry we're out of time and i much more going to talk about everyone check out peter jones that's definitely making this is a more relevant as the first step filmmaker the dies. down of this like i don't often have you on. thank you very much. all right guys if you like what you see had your youtube channel at youtube dot com slash breaking the set and be sure to subscribe you don't miss a single episode we also have all of our interview segments tab down if you want to catch them separately i encourage everyone to check out our interview with wikipedia creator now fees of med you can also look at every segment we've done

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guys as you know on this show we often discuss the multitude of difficulties that veterans face in the u.s. and for good reason believe it or not the amount of veteran suicides has now outnumber the deaths in combat with one happening at a rate of every sixty five minutes so needless to say the suffering of u.s. soldiers goes far beyond the battlefield which is why i want to talk about iraq veteran thomas young in a scathing letter addressed to former president bush and vice president cheney a couple of weeks ago young pled for their day of reckoning as he lies on his own deathbed in the letter he wrote before my own death i want to make it clear that i and hundreds of thousands of my fellow veterans along with hundreds of millions more know fully who you are and what you've done you may have a justice but in our eyes you are each guilty of egregious war crimes of plunder and finally of murder including the murder of thousands of young americans my

fellow veterans whose future you stole so to talk more about young's quest to hold those responsible accountable as well as the ongoing challenges facing veterans today i'm joined now by the wife of thomas young herself. thinks so. for coming on the show. thank you for having me so close i want to start by asking about thomas's condition from the time of his injury back in two thousand and four to now what more his original injury injuries and how has his condition deteriorated. where he was shot in april of two thousand for his spinal cord was severed at that he four level so he lost all feeling from the nipple line down. and he also had strapped to his knee. he knew something had gone terribly wrong any trying to get the words out for his fellow soldiers to kill him but they didn't he just couldn't get the words out so they took him and he went to germany and they went to walter reed and

i guess he had a shorter stay than he should have had and they sent him home. and so he learned how to be a paraplegic it took him four years and his first year of recovery was documented on the film documentary field on he documentary body of war and so that covered his first year recovery in kansas city and so it was very difficult to learn how to dress himself and take care of himself and feed himself and. during that time they toured with the movie. around at film festivals around the country in film screenings and he was speaking at the time so he. was able to do quite well as a chair. up until two thousand and eight and then. he was on all he presented with pain in his arm and then he went to the hospital again committed in a blood thinner and i guess it's customary that they take people off of this forty

weeks later which they did but surely there after he had a massive pulmonary embolism so that it was like an anoxic brain injury so he had lack of oxygen for a period of time. and so they brought him back for a. that he should have died i mean i'd get from poland ambles and just die instantly. so you bring back from that but at that point instead of being a paraplegic in a manual chair that you could push himself and he could take care of himself and feed himself and flow themself in and have some kind of a life. because of the embolism and then he had neuropathy in the places where he could feel from the nipple line up he could feel everything but his motor control was poor so he could no longer self transfer or do anything other than merely hold you tensile and allow the club thomas has made a very the decision to to end his life and i know that this must be very difficult for you but can you talk about how how how he's chosen to do this and what the

experience itself has been like for the both of you. well since since since the animalism it just it's been a deterioration over time and it's everything we've done in terms of procedures. and pills and surgeries has never gotten him back to where he was before the animalism so he had digestive issues that increasingly became very very difficult to pass to eat and pass stool and he was having chain in you know it was it just became. we lived with the suffering for the first three and a half years and we worked with it with the hospital and other pills and everything we had to do on a daily basis to get through a day in terms of care but once we hit last year he just the pain got too much we presented to the v.a. we had a revolving door of hospital visits and we got to the point where we were going to go into hospice last fall but they came the doctors came up with an idea for an ostomy to remove his colon and so we thought it would give us some quality time

a little time maybe a six months to a year or two years more together that we could have some quality of life left and then we had the coloring moved he had the ostomy procedure and we went home and he . the pain went away for a little bit and then it started coming back in december. and then he just he mechanistically functions so he embodies the waste into agen a friend of his body but he doesn't feel better and he still can't eat food it just he's not able so we have to feed him through a stomach tube anyway so he went through all that trouble and he couldn't even eat food again which is one of the few pleasures he had before so that along with increased uterine tract infections and increased difficulty coughing outflow. and skin breakdown in the form of skin all serious on is but x. where i can see is living bone it just became more suffering than living and we decided as a couple and he decided that he was ready to go to end the suffering he had been

living with it for nine years and we decided to go into hospice where we would have access to pain medication which would make it you know not so painful for him and then we could choose to die at home we didn't want to die in a hospital or an emergency room or in a nursing nursing homes must have been a very difficult decision for both of you to make but over the last nine years thomas has been very vocal and i want to ask you specifically about this letter that he wrote to president bush and vice president cheney with the letter itself can you tell us what what the takeaway should be there's a lot of talk about accountability in this letter but for someone reading this letter right now what should the takeaway be from from the letter that thomas wrote . well. to make such a massive decision to send. our sons and daughters to war

for anything other than trying to make the world world a better place you know i mean that's that's one thing but. now we know there were no weapons of mass destruction and it's been confirmed you know the march to war was. maybe even one for greed i just don't know why they would do that but at the human cost. the human costs are immeasurable and so hard to calculate and it is kind of demonstrated in my husband's single singular life but he is representative of so many that suffer just like us individually and in couples that are just trying to survive every day with these massive injuries seen and broken bodies returned home. deteriorate over time look just like an aging body just like a diseased body so. we just have to really when we have to truly evaluate whether it's worth sacrificing all of these human lives and for what you know and it especially in the shadow of vietnam you know here in america the media

asks me questions and i try to talk a little about being because my friends are vietnam veterans and artists who try to tell the story of war through art but knowing what we know and what i know personally about vietnam i didn't imagine it would ever go in my lifetime that we had a lot of work to do to heal those veterans and to bring them home and to appreciate their sacrifices we kind of threw them away and the people who are the politicians who decided on this war evaded service in vietnam and they so they don't know the personal cost of war so it isn't for their moms that note the a lot of what this a lot of what the letter itself is about is about war crimes it's calling out the bush administration for war crimes do you and thomas do you believe that george bush and vice president cheney should be prosecuted for these crimes. i know

thomas would have a much stronger evidence or to that question. i feel that. deep inside they have to know what they've done and i i don't want to condemn any other person that they will judge themselves at the end i guess i just feel i wish they would come and spend one day with us to see what it's like for a caregiver and no wounded warrior to go through one day of living with all of the things we have to do survive i mean if they saw that if they if they saw that with their own eyes they don't understand what they've done and i don't think they've been personally touched by the individual stories of suffering that make up all of the casualties of this war and of all wars. so i can't speak for thomas he would pricy yeah they should be tried i say you know they will be judged in their own time and in their own mind in their own hearts i pray with they just i

wish they would be touched by the individual stories of suffering if they knew personally and directly they would they would understand they just don't know yet and thank you so much for your individual story and this is a very very tragic story and we do appreciate you having the courage to come on the show and share it with us and thank you so much for being on the show that was. wife of iraq war veteran anti-war activist thomas young. thank you so much many thank you for your interest in our story which is a story of so many people. when we hear government officials using words like top secret or sensitive information we have an inclination to trust that certain things have to remain secret but have documented instances of torture illegal surveillance or even war crimes were being hidden from the public under the guise of national security well if it weren't for whistleblowers people who expose the truth to the public we would have never known

about the government misconduct during the watergate scandal we would have never known about the pentagon papers and the lies regarding the vietnam war during the johnson administration but over the last decade however blowing the whistle on dishonest government activity has become one of the most dangerous actions a person can take you see the obama administration has been keen on using an archaic piece of legislation known as the espionage act under the facade of national security obama has persecuted more whistleblowers than any other president in american history take for example the case of thomas drake a former senior official at the n.s.a. drik blew the whistle on a program under the code name stellar wind which consisted of illegal wiretapping of american citizens as well as data mining for e-mail and phone communications financial transactions and internet activity yet as a result of them covering these illegalities it was drake who was prosecuted or what about cia analysts and whistleblower john kiriakou the only person the only

person to be charged in relation to the cia's torture program even though he had nothing to do with it. what's happening here is a chilling effect where the government is taking an otherwise noble cause demonizing these individuals in making examples out of them and it's not just thomas drake or john kiriakou or bradley manning for that matter no these people are just a few in a long list of those who have been persecuted just for doing what's right for exposing the government for asking for transparency we can't allow ourselves to succumb to the chilling effect we shouldn't have to fear telling the truth when the government overstepped its boundaries it's them that should be afraid of us.

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